“There was never a week where Helmut wasn't saying, "Well, this will piss-off Lois."' Or, ‘"I can't wait to hear what Lois is going to say about that."
    ‘Lois was almost like an arch competitor and I think Lois used to always egg him on - he knew how to push Helmut's buttons. And I think Helmut, kind of, as much as it used to annoy him, he liked the competitiveness of it.'